. >> this week, president obama apologized for the botched rollout and we waited to see if kathleen sebelius would resign yesterday and yesterday she came to the podium and said it was botched but getting better. isn't it time for her to go? >> i don't understd what the scination is to get her out. she charge of the policy. not the technology. >> juan, you watch football? you wtch baseball? you wah just about anywhere else, if the person i charge of the team and the team is failing, if they are in charge, don't you fire the coach at some point? >> at some point butt this point it hangs her out for no good reason and it wouldn't fix the probl. you said look at the average co according to kizer is going up. the fact curven terms of the healthcare spending nationally has gone down since 2010. i am thinking to myself that is something to say sebelius you are doing a good job he. >> stop it. >> even as a critic -- >> stop it. stop it. stop it. you know the cost curve is not going down. sts continue to rise. >> that is a fact. that is a fact. i know facts botr you guys. >> it's not that. i'll guar